Thread: Problem after using Network Setup Wizard

The device you are referring to (Netopia 3341) is indeed a router. I
would not recommend using ICS to share the Internet connection. The
connection diagram should be as follows:

modem---netopia 3341---hub---computer 1
|
computer 2

The DHCP service on the router should be able to assign a unique IP
address to each computer.

-Vincent

Maurice IRL wrote:
> Help!
> After apparently setting up a small network successfully on my PC, under
> Administrator profile, I get the following error message when I click on the
> network name ('Homeoffice') within My Network Places:
> <Homeoffice is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
> network resource etc....>.
> I also get <Request timed out> messages when I ping the Ethernet network
> adaptor IP address.
>
> Background info: Dell Dimension P4 2.4Ghz 1Gb RAM, XP Pro SP2; Cayman
> Netopia 3341 network adaptor (not router) using USB connection to PC; this PC
> as ICS computer for network. A second PC shows works fine after setting a
> mathcing 'Homeoffice' network i.e. no error message when I click on the
> network name ('Homeoffice') within My Network Places on this PC (shows this
> PC only, although both PCs are connected through an Ethernet hub separate
> from the Internet network adaptor mentioned above), and pings correctly.
> --
> Maurice

Thank you, Vincent, for your very prompt reply. I hadn't thought of
connecting the way you suggest, as the Netopia 3341 installation manual says
nothing about using it this way.
I've connected it this way now, and set up the network again without ICS.
However, I still get the same error messages as stated in my first message
below. I am pinging with the new (now DHPC assigned) Ethernet LAN card
address. (Pinging works fine with the default gateway address for the Netopia
3341 site, assigned automatically).
Any ideas?
--
Maurice


"Vincent" wrote:

> The device you are referring to (Netopia 3341) is indeed a router. I
> would not recommend using ICS to share the Internet connection. The
> connection diagram should be as follows:
>
> modem---netopia 3341---hub---computer 1
> |
> computer 2
>
> The DHCP service on the router should be able to assign a unique IP
> address to each computer.
>
> -Vincent
>
> Maurice IRL wrote:
> > Help!
> > After apparently setting up a small network successfully on my PC, under
> > Administrator profile, I get the following error message when I click on the
> > network name ('Homeoffice') within My Network Places:
> > <Homeoffice is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
> > network resource etc....>.
> > I also get <Request timed out> messages when I ping the Ethernet network
> > adaptor IP address.
> >
> > Background info: Dell Dimension P4 2.4Ghz 1Gb RAM, XP Pro SP2; Cayman
> > Netopia 3341 network adaptor (not router) using USB connection to PC; this PC
> > as ICS computer for network. A second PC shows works fine after setting a
> > mathcing 'Homeoffice' network i.e. no error message when I click on the
> > network name ('Homeoffice') within My Network Places on this PC (shows this
> > PC only, although both PCs are connected through an Ethernet hub separate
> > from the Internet network adaptor mentioned above), and pings correctly.
> > --
> > Maurice
>
>

I'm a novice at this... I have a "network" problem and haven't been able to
find answers in the usual help locations. You guys sound like you know what
you're doing so perhaps you can point me in the right direction.

While attempting to recover from a lost internet connection (I have a
wireless router to get internet access downstairs) and in the process of
trying to reinstall, I set up a network. Now, I have to log in to access my
PC and the individual accounts I used to have for my daughters are no longer
available. I have a PC in my room and one downstairs for the kids and
homework... connected, like I said by this Netgear wireless router.

How to do I undo this network without getting stuck deeper and losing the
files they used to have? Desi

"Maurice IRL" wrote:

> Thank you, Vincent, for your very prompt reply. I hadn't thought of
> connecting the way you suggest, as the Netopia 3341 installation manual says
> nothing about using it this way.
> I've connected it this way now, and set up the network again without ICS.
> However, I still get the same error messages as stated in my first message
> below. I am pinging with the new (now DHPC assigned) Ethernet LAN card
> address. (Pinging works fine with the default gateway address for the Netopia
> 3341 site, assigned automatically).
> Any ideas?
> --
> Maurice
>
>
> "Vincent" wrote:
>
> > The device you are referring to (Netopia 3341) is indeed a router. I
> > would not recommend using ICS to share the Internet connection. The
> > connection diagram should be as follows:
> >
> > modem---netopia 3341---hub---computer 1
> > |
> > computer 2
> >
> > The DHCP service on the router should be able to assign a unique IP
> > address to each computer.
> >
> > -Vincent
> >
> > Maurice IRL wrote:
> > > Help!
> > > After apparently setting up a small network successfully on my PC, under
> > > Administrator profile, I get the following error message when I click on the
> > > network name ('Homeoffice') within My Network Places:
> > > <Homeoffice is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
> > > network resource etc....>.
> > > I also get <Request timed out> messages when I ping the Ethernet network
> > > adaptor IP address.
> > >
> > > Background info: Dell Dimension P4 2.4Ghz 1Gb RAM, XP Pro SP2; Cayman
> > > Netopia 3341 network adaptor (not router) using USB connection to PC; this PC
> > > as ICS computer for network. A second PC shows works fine after setting a
> > > mathcing 'Homeoffice' network i.e. no error message when I click on the
> > > network name ('Homeoffice') within My Network Places on this PC (shows this
> > > PC only, although both PCs are connected through an Ethernet hub separate
> > > from the Internet network adaptor mentioned above), and pings correctly.
> > > --
> > > Maurice
> >
> >

"Desiree" wrote

> I'm a novice at this... I have a "network" problem and haven't been able
> to
> find answers in the usual help locations. You guys sound like you know
> what
> you're doing so perhaps you can point me in the right direction.
>
> While attempting to recover from a lost internet connection (I have a
> wireless router to get internet access downstairs) and in the process of
> trying to reinstall, I set up a network. Now, I have to log in to access
> my
> PC and the individual accounts I used to have for my daughters are no
> longer
> available. I have a PC in my room and one downstairs for the kids and
> homework... connected, like I said by this Netgear wireless router.
>
> How to do I undo this network without getting stuck deeper and losing the
> files they used to have? Desi

You really shouldn't post a new question as a reply to another thread -
that's called hijacking a thread. Create a new post giving relevant
information about your problem.

--
Rock [MVP - User/Shell]

Maurice,

I am unsure what the problem is. Are you trying to get file and
printer sharing to work between your two computers? Are you having
problems accessing the Internet, or is this working properly? I take
it that "HomeOffice" is the name of the workgroup on each computer. Is
this correct? Pinging the address assigned to the computer itself
doesn't really tell you much. Pinging the respective client computers
would be more helpful. So, for example, from computer A try pinging
computer B and from computer B try pinging computer A. What are the
results of this test?

-Vincent

Maurice IRL wrote:
> Thank you, Vincent, for your very prompt reply. I hadn't thought of
> connecting the way you suggest, as the Netopia 3341 installation manual says
> nothing about using it this way.
> I've connected it this way now, and set up the network again without ICS.
> However, I still get the same error messages as stated in my first message
> below. I am pinging with the new (now DHPC assigned) Ethernet LAN card
> address. (Pinging works fine with the default gateway address for the Netopia
> 3341 site, assigned automatically).
> Any ideas?
> --
> Maurice
>
>
> "Vincent" wrote:
>
> > The device you are referring to (Netopia 3341) is indeed a router. I
> > would not recommend using ICS to share the Internet connection. The
> > connection diagram should be as follows:
> >
> > modem---netopia 3341---hub---computer 1
> > |
> > computer 2
> >
> > The DHCP service on the router should be able to assign a unique IP
> > address to each computer.
> >
> > -Vincent
> >
> > Maurice IRL wrote:
> > > Help!
> > > After apparently setting up a small network successfully on my PC, under
> > > Administrator profile, I get the following error message when I click on the
> > > network name ('Homeoffice') within My Network Places:
> > > <Homeoffice is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
> > > network resource etc....>.
> > > I also get <Request timed out> messages when I ping the Ethernet network
> > > adaptor IP address.
> > >
> > > Background info: Dell Dimension P4 2.4Ghz 1Gb RAM, XP Pro SP2; Cayman
> > > Netopia 3341 network adaptor (not router) using USB connection to PC; this PC
> > > as ICS computer for network. A second PC shows works fine after setting a
> > > mathcing 'Homeoffice' network i.e. no error message when I click on the
> > > network name ('Homeoffice') within My Network Places on this PC (shows this
> > > PC only, although both PCs are connected through an Ethernet hub separate
> > > from the Internet network adaptor mentioned above), and pings correctly.
> > > --
> > > Maurice
> >
> >

Vincent,

Yes, you are right. I am trying to get file and printer sharing between my
two computers. Internet is now working fine on both computers, thanks to your
brilliant advice yesterday (far better than the information and setup
instructions in the Netopia 3341 manual! {:-) ). I can't tell you how
grateful I am to you for bringing me this far. 'Homeoffice' is indeed the
name of the workgroup on each computer.

I realise that pinging the address assigned to the computer itself doesn't
tell you much. I was reduced to trying that when I found that pinging
computer A from computer B and vice versa didn't work. It seems to me that,
since pinging itself is working on computer B, but not on computer A, there's
a problem on computer A. The question now is, what is causing the problem?

--
Maurice


"Vincent" wrote:

> Maurice,
>
> I am unsure what the problem is. Are you trying to get file and
> printer sharing to work between your two computers? Are you having
> problems accessing the Internet, or is this working properly? I take
> it that "HomeOffice" is the name of the workgroup on each computer. Is
> this correct? Pinging the address assigned to the computer itself
> doesn't really tell you much. Pinging the respective client computers
> would be more helpful. So, for example, from computer A try pinging
> computer B and from computer B try pinging computer A. What are the
> results of this test?
>
> -Vincent
>
> Maurice IRL wrote:
> > Thank you, Vincent, for your very prompt reply. I hadn't thought of
> > connecting the way you suggest, as the Netopia 3341 installation manual says
> > nothing about using it this way.
> > I've connected it this way now, and set up the network again without ICS.
> > However, I still get the same error messages as stated in my first message
> > below. I am pinging with the new (now DHPC assigned) Ethernet LAN card
> > address. (Pinging works fine with the default gateway address for the Netopia
> > 3341 site, assigned automatically).
> > Any ideas?
> > --
> > Maurice
> >
> >
> > "Vincent" wrote:
> >
> > > The device you are referring to (Netopia 3341) is indeed a router. I
> > > would not recommend using ICS to share the Internet connection. The
> > > connection diagram should be as follows:
> > >
> > > modem---netopia 3341---hub---computer 1
> > > |
> > > computer 2
> > >
> > > The DHCP service on the router should be able to assign a unique IP
> > > address to each computer.
> > >
> > > -Vincent
> > >
> > > Maurice IRL wrote:
> > > > Help!
> > > > After apparently setting up a small network successfully on my PC, under
> > > > Administrator profile, I get the following error message when I click on the
> > > > network name ('Homeoffice') within My Network Places:
> > > > <Homeoffice is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
> > > > network resource etc....>.
> > > > I also get <Request timed out> messages when I ping the Ethernet network
> > > > adaptor IP address.
> > > >
> > > > Background info: Dell Dimension P4 2.4Ghz 1Gb RAM, XP Pro SP2; Cayman
> > > > Netopia 3341 network adaptor (not router) using USB connection to PC; this PC
> > > > as ICS computer for network. A second PC shows works fine after setting a
> > > > mathcing 'Homeoffice' network i.e. no error message when I click on the
> > > > network name ('Homeoffice') within My Network Places on this PC (shows this
> > > > PC only, although both PCs are connected through an Ethernet hub separate
> > > > from the Internet network adaptor mentioned above), and pings correctly.
> > > > --
> > > > Maurice
> > >
> > >
>
>

Vincent,

I forgot to distinguish between the error messages that come up when I look
at My Network Places on each computer. This information might be helpful to
you.

Computer B sees computer A, but when I click on computer A's icon (on
computer B's screen), here's the message that comes up: "<Name of computer A>
is not accessible. You might not have permission etc. The network path was
not found".
I can only get as far as the 'Homeoffice' icon on computer A, as when I
click on this icon, here's the message that comes up: "Homeoffice is not
accessible. You might not have permission etc. The list of servers for this
workgroup is not currently available".

--
Maurice


"Maurice IRL" wrote:

> Vincent,
>
> Yes, you are right. I am trying to get file and printer sharing between my
> two computers. Internet is now working fine on both computers, thanks to your
> brilliant advice yesterday (far better than the information and setup
> instructions in the Netopia 3341 manual! {:-) ). I can't tell you how
> grateful I am to you for bringing me this far. 'Homeoffice' is indeed the
> name of the workgroup on each computer.
>
> I realise that pinging the address assigned to the computer itself doesn't
> tell you much. I was reduced to trying that when I found that pinging
> computer A from computer B and vice versa didn't work. It seems to me that,
> since pinging itself is working on computer B, but not on computer A, there's
> a problem on computer A. The question now is, what is causing the problem?
>
> --
> Maurice
>
>
> "Vincent" wrote:
>
> > Maurice,
> >
> > I am unsure what the problem is. Are you trying to get file and
> > printer sharing to work between your two computers? Are you having
> > problems accessing the Internet, or is this working properly? I take
> > it that "HomeOffice" is the name of the workgroup on each computer. Is
> > this correct? Pinging the address assigned to the computer itself
> > doesn't really tell you much. Pinging the respective client computers
> > would be more helpful. So, for example, from computer A try pinging
> > computer B and from computer B try pinging computer A. What are the
> > results of this test?
> >
> > -Vincent
> >
> > Maurice IRL wrote:
> > > Thank you, Vincent, for your very prompt reply. I hadn't thought of
> > > connecting the way you suggest, as the Netopia 3341 installation manual says
> > > nothing about using it this way.
> > > I've connected it this way now, and set up the network again without ICS.
> > > However, I still get the same error messages as stated in my first message
> > > below. I am pinging with the new (now DHPC assigned) Ethernet LAN card
> > > address. (Pinging works fine with the default gateway address for the Netopia
> > > 3341 site, assigned automatically).
> > > Any ideas?
> > > --
> > > Maurice
> > >
> > >
> > > "Vincent" wrote:
> > >
> > > > The device you are referring to (Netopia 3341) is indeed a router. I
> > > > would not recommend using ICS to share the Internet connection. The
> > > > connection diagram should be as follows:
> > > >
> > > > modem---netopia 3341---hub---computer 1
> > > > |
> > > > computer 2
> > > >
> > > > The DHCP service on the router should be able to assign a unique IP
> > > > address to each computer.
> > > >
> > > > -Vincent
> > > >
> > > > Maurice IRL wrote:
> > > > > Help!
> > > > > After apparently setting up a small network successfully on my PC, under
> > > > > Administrator profile, I get the following error message when I click on the
> > > > > network name ('Homeoffice') within My Network Places:
> > > > > <Homeoffice is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
> > > > > network resource etc....>.
> > > > > I also get <Request timed out> messages when I ping the Ethernet network
> > > > > adaptor IP address.
> > > > >
> > > > > Background info: Dell Dimension P4 2.4Ghz 1Gb RAM, XP Pro SP2; Cayman
> > > > > Netopia 3341 network adaptor (not router) using USB connection to PC; this PC
> > > > > as ICS computer for network. A second PC shows works fine after setting a
> > > > > mathcing 'Homeoffice' network i.e. no error message when I click on the
> > > > > network name ('Homeoffice') within My Network Places on this PC (shows this
> > > > > PC only, although both PCs are connected through an Ethernet hub separate
> > > > > from the Internet network adaptor mentioned above), and pings correctly.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Maurice
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >

On compuer A, I would make sure that two items are installed for
this particular network connection:
1) Client for Microsoft Networks
2) File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks

To check these items, open up the Control Panel-->Select Switch to
Classic View (on the left hand side of the screen. If it says Switch
to Category View, you are already ok)-->Network Connections
icon-->Double click on the network connection (most likely it says
Local Area Connection)-->Properties button in the lower left

You should see a screen that in the middle says "This connection
uses the following items:" Check to see if the 2 items I mentioned are
in this list. If not, click the install button and install the missing
items. "Client for Microsoft Networks" is a client and "File and
Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks" is a service.

I would also check the Windows firewall and make sure that there
is an exception for "File and Printer Sharing." To check this, open
the Control Panel-->Windows Firewall icon-->Exceptions tab at top of
screen. In the "Programs and Services:" list, there is a checkbox for
file and printer sharing. Make sure that this is checked. Actually, I
would check the Windows firewall first, as this is more likely to be
the problem.

-Vincent

> Vincent,
>
> I forgot to distinguish between the error messages that come up when I look
> at My Network Places on each computer. This information might be helpful to
> you.
>
> Computer B sees computer A, but when I click on computer A's icon (on
> computer B's screen), here's the message that comes up: "<Name of computer A>
> is not accessible. You might not have permission etc. The network path was
> not found".
> I can only get as far as the 'Homeoffice' icon on computer A, as when I
> click on this icon, here's the message that comes up: "Homeoffice is not
> accessible. You might not have permission etc. The list of servers for this
> workgroup is not currently available".
>
> --
> Maurice
>
>
> "Maurice IRL" wrote:
>
> > Vincent,
> >
> > Yes, you are right. I am trying to get file and printer sharing between my
> > two computers. Internet is now working fine on both computers, thanks to your
> > brilliant advice yesterday (far better than the information and setup
> > instructions in the Netopia 3341 manual! {:-) ). I can't tell you how
> > grateful I am to you for bringing me this far. 'Homeoffice' is indeed the
> > name of the workgroup on each computer.
> >
> > I realise that pinging the address assigned to the computer itself doesn't
> > tell you much. I was reduced to trying that when I found that pinging
> > computer A from computer B and vice versa didn't work. It seems to me that,
> > since pinging itself is working on computer B, but not on computer A, there's
> > a problem on computer A. The question now is, what is causing the problem?
> >
> > --
> > Maurice
> >
> >
> > "Vincent" wrote:
> >
> > > Maurice,
> > >
> > > I am unsure what the problem is. Are you trying to get file and
> > > printer sharing to work between your two computers? Are you having
> > > problems accessing the Internet, or is this working properly? I take
> > > it that "HomeOffice" is the name of the workgroup on each computer. Is
> > > this correct? Pinging the address assigned to the computer itself
> > > doesn't really tell you much. Pinging the respective client computers
> > > would be more helpful. So, for example, from computer A try pinging
> > > computer B and from computer B try pinging computer A. What are the
> > > results of this test?
> > >
> > > -Vincent
> > >
> > > Maurice IRL wrote:
> > > > Thank you, Vincent, for your very prompt reply. I hadn't thought of
> > > > connecting the way you suggest, as the Netopia 3341 installation manual says
> > > > nothing about using it this way.
> > > > I've connected it this way now, and set up the network again without ICS.
> > > > However, I still get the same error messages as stated in my first message
> > > > below. I am pinging with the new (now DHPC assigned) Ethernet LAN card
> > > > address. (Pinging works fine with the default gateway address for the Netopia
> > > > 3341 site, assigned automatically).
> > > > Any ideas?
> > > > --
> > > > Maurice
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Vincent" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The device you are referring to (Netopia 3341) is indeed a router. I
> > > > > would not recommend using ICS to share the Internet connection. The
> > > > > connection diagram should be as follows:
> > > > >
> > > > > modem---netopia 3341---hub---computer 1
> > > > > |
> > > > > computer 2
> > > > >
> > > > > The DHCP service on the router should be able to assign a unique IP
> > > > > address to each computer.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Vincent
> > > > >
> > > > > Maurice IRL wrote:
> > > > > > Help!
> > > > > > After apparently setting up a small network successfully on my PC, under
> > > > > > Administrator profile, I get the following error message when I click on the
> > > > > > network name ('Homeoffice') within My Network Places:
> > > > > > <Homeoffice is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
> > > > > > network resource etc....>.
> > > > > > I also get <Request timed out> messages when I ping the Ethernet network
> > > > > > adaptor IP address.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Background info: Dell Dimension P4 2.4Ghz 1Gb RAM, XP Pro SP2; Cayman
> > > > > > Netopia 3341 network adaptor (not router) using USB connection to PC; this PC
> > > > > > as ICS computer for network. A second PC shows works fine after setting a
> > > > > > mathcing 'Homeoffice' network i.e. no error message when I click on the
> > > > > > network name ('Homeoffice') within My Network Places on this PC (shows this
> > > > > > PC only, although both PCs are connected through an Ethernet hub separate
> > > > > > from the Internet network adaptor mentioned above), and pings correctly.
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Maurice
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >

Thank you, Vincent, for being so generous with your time once again.
In Windows Firewall 'File and Printer Sharing' was not checked, and 'No
Exceptions' on the first screen was checked; they are now respectively
checked and unchecked.
In the 'Local Area Connection' Properties panel, both 'Client for Microsoft
Networks' and 'File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks' were/are
present and checked.
I also did a restart.
However, the error messages are still apearing on both computers. One slight
advance is that pinging computer A from computer B now works.
--
Maurice


"Vincent" wrote:

> On compuer A, I would make sure that two items are installed for
> this particular network connection:
> 1) Client for Microsoft Networks
> 2) File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
>
> To check these items, open up the Control Panel-->Select Switch to
> Classic View (on the left hand side of the screen. If it says Switch
> to Category View, you are already ok)-->Network Connections
> icon-->Double click on the network connection (most likely it says
> Local Area Connection)-->Properties button in the lower left
>
> You should see a screen that in the middle says "This connection
> uses the following items:" Check to see if the 2 items I mentioned are
> in this list. If not, click the install button and install the missing
> items. "Client for Microsoft Networks" is a client and "File and
> Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks" is a service.
>
> I would also check the Windows firewall and make sure that there
> is an exception for "File and Printer Sharing." To check this, open
> the Control Panel-->Windows Firewall icon-->Exceptions tab at top of
> screen. In the "Programs and Services:" list, there is a checkbox for
> file and printer sharing. Make sure that this is checked. Actually, I
> would check the Windows firewall first, as this is more likely to be
> the problem.
>
> -Vincent
>
> > Vincent,
> >
> > I forgot to distinguish between the error messages that come up when I look
> > at My Network Places on each computer. This information might be helpful to
> > you.
> >
> > Computer B sees computer A, but when I click on computer A's icon (on
> > computer B's screen), here's the message that comes up: "<Name of computer A>
> > is not accessible. You might not have permission etc. The network path was
> > not found".
> > I can only get as far as the 'Homeoffice' icon on computer A, as when I
> > click on this icon, here's the message that comes up: "Homeoffice is not
> > accessible. You might not have permission etc. The list of servers for this
> > workgroup is not currently available".
> >
> > --
> > Maurice
> >
> >
> > "Maurice IRL" wrote:
> >
> > > Vincent,
> > >
> > > Yes, you are right. I am trying to get file and printer sharing between my
> > > two computers. Internet is now working fine on both computers, thanks to your
> > > brilliant advice yesterday (far better than the information and setup
> > > instructions in the Netopia 3341 manual! {:-) ). I can't tell you how
> > > grateful I am to you for bringing me this far. 'Homeoffice' is indeed the
> > > name of the workgroup on each computer.
> > >
> > > I realise that pinging the address assigned to the computer itself doesn't
> > > tell you much. I was reduced to trying that when I found that pinging
> > > computer A from computer B and vice versa didn't work. It seems to me that,
> > > since pinging itself is working on computer B, but not on computer A, there's
> > > a problem on computer A. The question now is, what is causing the problem?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Maurice
> > >
> > >
> > > "Vincent" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Maurice,
> > > >
> > > > I am unsure what the problem is. Are you trying to get file and
> > > > printer sharing to work between your two computers? Are you having
> > > > problems accessing the Internet, or is this working properly? I take
> > > > it that "HomeOffice" is the name of the workgroup on each computer. Is
> > > > this correct? Pinging the address assigned to the computer itself
> > > > doesn't really tell you much. Pinging the respective client computers
> > > > would be more helpful. So, for example, from computer A try pinging
> > > > computer B and from computer B try pinging computer A. What are the
> > > > results of this test?
> > > >
> > > > -Vincent
> > > >
> > > > Maurice IRL wrote:
> > > > > Thank you, Vincent, for your very prompt reply. I hadn't thought of
> > > > > connecting the way you suggest, as the Netopia 3341 installation manual says
> > > > > nothing about using it this way.
> > > > > I've connected it this way now, and set up the network again without ICS.
> > > > > However, I still get the same error messages as stated in my first message
> > > > > below. I am pinging with the new (now DHPC assigned) Ethernet LAN card
> > > > > address. (Pinging works fine with the default gateway address for the Netopia
> > > > > 3341 site, assigned automatically).
> > > > > Any ideas?
> > > > > --
> > > > > Maurice
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Vincent" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The device you are referring to (Netopia 3341) is indeed a router. I
> > > > > > would not recommend using ICS to share the Internet connection. The
> > > > > > connection diagram should be as follows:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > modem---netopia 3341---hub---computer 1
> > > > > > |
> > > > > > computer 2
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The DHCP service on the router should be able to assign a unique IP
> > > > > > address to each computer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Vincent
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maurice IRL wrote:
> > > > > > > Help!
> > > > > > > After apparently setting up a small network successfully on my PC, under
> > > > > > > Administrator profile, I get the following error message when I click on the
> > > > > > > network name ('Homeoffice') within My Network Places:
> > > > > > > <Homeoffice is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
> > > > > > > network resource etc....>.
> > > > > > > I also get <Request timed out> messages when I ping the Ethernet network
> > > > > > > adaptor IP address.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Background info: Dell Dimension P4 2.4Ghz 1Gb RAM, XP Pro SP2; Cayman
> > > > > > > Netopia 3341 network adaptor (not router) using USB connection to PC; this PC
> > > > > > > as ICS computer for network. A second PC shows works fine after setting a
> > > > > > > mathcing 'Homeoffice' network i.e. no error message when I click on the
> > > > > > > network name ('Homeoffice') within My Network Places on this PC (shows this
> > > > > > > PC only, although both PCs are connected through an Ethernet hub separate
> > > > > > > from the Internet network adaptor mentioned above), and pings correctly.
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Maurice
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>
>

Maurice,

Try pinging the hostname of the opposite computer from each
computer. So, for example, if computer A is named computer1, goto
computer B and run "ping computer1" from the command line. Do you
receive a reply from each computer?

-Vincent

Maurice IRL wrote:
> Thank you, Vincent, for being so generous with your time once again.
> In Windows Firewall 'File and Printer Sharing' was not checked, and 'No
> Exceptions' on the first screen was checked; they are now respectively
> checked and unchecked.
> In the 'Local Area Connection' Properties panel, both 'Client for Microsoft
> Networks' and 'File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks' were/are
> present and checked.
> I also did a restart.
> However, the error messages are still apearing on both computers. One slight
> advance is that pinging computer A from computer B now works.
> --
> Maurice
>
>
> "Vincent" wrote:
>
> > On compuer A, I would make sure that two items are installed for
> > this particular network connection:
> > 1) Client for Microsoft Networks
> > 2) File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
> >
> > To check these items, open up the Control Panel-->Select Switch to
> > Classic View (on the left hand side of the screen. If it says Switch
> > to Category View, you are already ok)-->Network Connections
> > icon-->Double click on the network connection (most likely it says
> > Local Area Connection)-->Properties button in the lower left
> >
> > You should see a screen that in the middle says "This connection
> > uses the following items:" Check to see if the 2 items I mentioned are
> > in this list. If not, click the install button and install the missing
> > items. "Client for Microsoft Networks" is a client and "File and
> > Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks" is a service.
> >
> > I would also check the Windows firewall and make sure that there
> > is an exception for "File and Printer Sharing." To check this, open
> > the Control Panel-->Windows Firewall icon-->Exceptions tab at top of
> > screen. In the "Programs and Services:" list, there is a checkbox for
> > file and printer sharing. Make sure that this is checked. Actually, I
> > would check the Windows firewall first, as this is more likely to be
> > the problem.
> >
> > -Vincent
> >
> > > Vincent,
> > >
> > > I forgot to distinguish between the error messages that come up when I look
> > > at My Network Places on each computer. This information might be helpful to
> > > you.
> > >
> > > Computer B sees computer A, but when I click on computer A's icon (on
> > > computer B's screen), here's the message that comes up: "<Name of computer A>
> > > is not accessible. You might not have permission etc. The network path was
> > > not found".
> > > I can only get as far as the 'Homeoffice' icon on computer A, as when I
> > > click on this icon, here's the message that comes up: "Homeoffice is not
> > > accessible. You might not have permission etc. The list of servers for this
> > > workgroup is not currently available".
> > >
> > > --
> > > Maurice
> > >
> > >
> > > "Maurice IRL" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Vincent,
> > > >
> > > > Yes, you are right. I am trying to get file and printer sharing between my
> > > > two computers. Internet is now working fine on both computers, thanks to your
> > > > brilliant advice yesterday (far better than the information and setup
> > > > instructions in the Netopia 3341 manual! {:-) ). I can't tell you how
> > > > grateful I am to you for bringing me this far. 'Homeoffice' is indeed the
> > > > name of the workgroup on each computer.
> > > >
> > > > I realise that pinging the address assigned to the computer itself doesn't
> > > > tell you much. I was reduced to trying that when I found that pinging
> > > > computer A from computer B and vice versa didn't work. It seems to me that,
> > > > since pinging itself is working on computer B, but not on computer A, there's
> > > > a problem on computer A. The question now is, what is causing the problem?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Maurice
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Vincent" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Maurice,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am unsure what the problem is. Are you trying to get file and
> > > > > printer sharing to work between your two computers? Are you having
> > > > > problems accessing the Internet, or is this working properly? I take
> > > > > it that "HomeOffice" is the name of the workgroup on each computer. Is
> > > > > this correct? Pinging the address assigned to the computer itself
> > > > > doesn't really tell you much. Pinging the respective client computers
> > > > > would be more helpful. So, for example, from computer A try pinging
> > > > > computer B and from computer B try pinging computer A. What are the
> > > > > results of this test?
> > > > >
> > > > > -Vincent
> > > > >
> > > > > Maurice IRL wrote:
> > > > > > Thank you, Vincent, for your very prompt reply. I hadn't thought of
> > > > > > connecting the way you suggest, as the Netopia 3341 installation manual says
> > > > > > nothing about using it this way.
> > > > > > I've connected it this way now, and set up the network again without ICS.
> > > > > > However, I still get the same error messages as stated in my first message
> > > > > > below. I am pinging with the new (now DHPC assigned) Ethernet LAN card
> > > > > > address. (Pinging works fine with the default gateway address for the Netopia
> > > > > > 3341 site, assigned automatically).
> > > > > > Any ideas?
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Maurice
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Vincent" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The device you are referring to (Netopia 3341) is indeed a router. I
> > > > > > > would not recommend using ICS to share the Internet connection. The
> > > > > > > connection diagram should be as follows:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > modem---netopia 3341---hub---computer 1
> > > > > > > |
> > > > > > > computer 2
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The DHCP service on the router should be able to assign a unique IP
> > > > > > > address to each computer.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Vincent
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maurice IRL wrote:
> > > > > > > > Help!
> > > > > > > > After apparently setting up a small network successfully on my PC, under
> > > > > > > > Administrator profile, I get the following error message when I click on the
> > > > > > > > network name ('Homeoffice') within My Network Places:
> > > > > > > > <Homeoffice is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
> > > > > > > > network resource etc....>.
> > > > > > > > I also get <Request timed out> messages when I ping the Ethernet network
> > > > > > > > adaptor IP address.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Background info: Dell Dimension P4 2.4Ghz 1Gb RAM, XP Pro SP2; Cayman
> > > > > > > > Netopia 3341 network adaptor (not router) using USB connection to PC; this PC
> > > > > > > > as ICS computer for network. A second PC shows works fine after setting a
> > > > > > > > mathcing 'Homeoffice' network i.e. no error message when I click on the
> > > > > > > > network name ('Homeoffice') within My Network Places on this PC (shows this
> > > > > > > > PC only, although both PCs are connected through an Ethernet hub separate
> > > > > > > > from the Internet network adaptor mentioned above), and pings correctly.
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Maurice
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >
> >

Vincent,

This produces the error message "Ping request could not find host D6ly6mOj."
where D6ly6mOj is the name of computer 1, and I am pinging from computer2 (or
computer1). Same situation for computer2.

--
Maurice


"Vincent" wrote:

> Maurice,
>
> Try pinging the hostname of the opposite computer from each
> computer. So, for example, if computer A is named computer1, goto
> computer B and run "ping computer1" from the command line. Do you
> receive a reply from each computer?
>
> -Vincent
>
> Maurice IRL wrote:
> > Thank you, Vincent, for being so generous with your time once again.
> > In Windows Firewall 'File and Printer Sharing' was not checked, and 'No
> > Exceptions' on the first screen was checked; they are now respectively
> > checked and unchecked.
> > In the 'Local Area Connection' Properties panel, both 'Client for Microsoft
> > Networks' and 'File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks' were/are
> > present and checked.
> > I also did a restart.
> > However, the error messages are still apearing on both computers. One slight
> > advance is that pinging computer A from computer B now works.
> > --
> > Maurice
> >
> >
> > "Vincent" wrote:
> >
> > > On compuer A, I would make sure that two items are installed for
> > > this particular network connection:
> > > 1) Client for Microsoft Networks
> > > 2) File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
> > >
> > > To check these items, open up the Control Panel-->Select Switch to
> > > Classic View (on the left hand side of the screen. If it says Switch
> > > to Category View, you are already ok)-->Network Connections
> > > icon-->Double click on the network connection (most likely it says
> > > Local Area Connection)-->Properties button in the lower left
> > >
> > > You should see a screen that in the middle says "This connection
> > > uses the following items:" Check to see if the 2 items I mentioned are
> > > in this list. If not, click the install button and install the missing
> > > items. "Client for Microsoft Networks" is a client and "File and
> > > Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks" is a service.
> > >
> > > I would also check the Windows firewall and make sure that there
> > > is an exception for "File and Printer Sharing." To check this, open
> > > the Control Panel-->Windows Firewall icon-->Exceptions tab at top of
> > > screen. In the "Programs and Services:" list, there is a checkbox for
> > > file and printer sharing. Make sure that this is checked. Actually, I
> > > would check the Windows firewall first, as this is more likely to be
> > > the problem.
> > >
> > > -Vincent
> > >
> > > > Vincent,
> > > >
> > > > I forgot to distinguish between the error messages that come up when I look
> > > > at My Network Places on each computer. This information might be helpful to
> > > > you.
> > > >
> > > > Computer B sees computer A, but when I click on computer A's icon (on
> > > > computer B's screen), here's the message that comes up: "<Name of computer A>
> > > > is not accessible. You might not have permission etc. The network path was
> > > > not found".
> > > > I can only get as far as the 'Homeoffice' icon on computer A, as when I
> > > > click on this icon, here's the message that comes up: "Homeoffice is not
> > > > accessible. You might not have permission etc. The list of servers for this
> > > > workgroup is not currently available".
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Maurice
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Maurice IRL" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Vincent,
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, you are right. I am trying to get file and printer sharing between my
> > > > > two computers. Internet is now working fine on both computers, thanks to your
> > > > > brilliant advice yesterday (far better than the information and setup
> > > > > instructions in the Netopia 3341 manual! {:-) ). I can't tell you how
> > > > > grateful I am to you for bringing me this far. 'Homeoffice' is indeed the
> > > > > name of the workgroup on each computer.
> > > > >
> > > > > I realise that pinging the address assigned to the computer itself doesn't
> > > > > tell you much. I was reduced to trying that when I found that pinging
> > > > > computer A from computer B and vice versa didn't work. It seems to me that,
> > > > > since pinging itself is working on computer B, but not on computer A, there's
> > > > > a problem on computer A. The question now is, what is causing the problem?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Maurice
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Vincent" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Maurice,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am unsure what the problem is. Are you trying to get file and
> > > > > > printer sharing to work between your two computers? Are you having
> > > > > > problems accessing the Internet, or is this working properly? I take
> > > > > > it that "HomeOffice" is the name of the workgroup on each computer. Is
> > > > > > this correct? Pinging the address assigned to the computer itself
> > > > > > doesn't really tell you much. Pinging the respective client computers
> > > > > > would be more helpful. So, for example, from computer A try pinging
> > > > > > computer B and from computer B try pinging computer A. What are the
> > > > > > results of this test?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Vincent
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maurice IRL wrote:
> > > > > > > Thank you, Vincent, for your very prompt reply. I hadn't thought of
> > > > > > > connecting the way you suggest, as the Netopia 3341 installation manual says
> > > > > > > nothing about using it this way.
> > > > > > > I've connected it this way now, and set up the network again without ICS.
> > > > > > > However, I still get the same error messages as stated in my first message
> > > > > > > below. I am pinging with the new (now DHPC assigned) Ethernet LAN card
> > > > > > > address. (Pinging works fine with the default gateway address for the Netopia
> > > > > > > 3341 site, assigned automatically).
> > > > > > > Any ideas?
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Maurice
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Vincent" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The device you are referring to (Netopia 3341) is indeed a router. I
> > > > > > > > would not recommend using ICS to share the Internet connection. The
> > > > > > > > connection diagram should be as follows:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > modem---netopia 3341---hub---computer 1
> > > > > > > > |
> > > > > > > > computer 2
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The DHCP service on the router should be able to assign a unique IP
> > > > > > > > address to each computer.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Vincent
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Maurice IRL wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Help!
> > > > > > > > > After apparently setting up a small network successfully on my PC, under
> > > > > > > > > Administrator profile, I get the following error message when I click on the
> > > > > > > > > network name ('Homeoffice') within My Network Places:
> > > > > > > > > <Homeoffice is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
> > > > > > > > > network resource etc....>.
> > > > > > > > > I also get <Request timed out> messages when I ping the Ethernet network
> > > > > > > > > adaptor IP address.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Background info: Dell Dimension P4 2.4Ghz 1Gb RAM, XP Pro SP2; Cayman
> > > > > > > > > Netopia 3341 network adaptor (not router) using USB connection to PC; this PC
> > > > > > > > > as ICS computer for network. A second PC shows works fine after setting a
> > > > > > > > > mathcing 'Homeoffice' network i.e. no error message when I click on the
> > > > > > > > > network name ('Homeoffice') within My Network Places on this PC (shows this
> > > > > > > > > PC only, although both PCs are connected through an Ethernet hub separate
> > > > > > > > > from the Internet network adaptor mentioned above), and pings correctly.
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Maurice
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>