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  1. #1
    DoctorGordanBens
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    Default chkdsk/f

    I store my important data on an external USB Hardrive. When I started the
    drive up, I got an error message which advised me that one of my folders was
    corrupted, not just a file, but the entire folder. The message advised me to
    run chkdsk to recover the files, which I did. Then the message to dismount
    the volume appeared and I answered Y to it. With the volume dismounted
    message came the message that all open handles to this volume are now
    invalid. CHKDSK then proceeded to fix the disk, deleting corrupted files and
    then recovering orphaned files. At the end of the run,chkdsk reset the
    security id's for some of the files and verified that operation. Then it
    inserted data attributes to those files and corrected errors in the master
    file table. In other words chkdsk did a fine job, I even have a print out of
    what it did. After all was said and done and I re-booted my computer, the
    previously corrupt folder, which was fixed by chkdsk, was gone. The entire
    directory was gone. The only thing that was left was a ghost folder with
    nothing in it. I did a search and nothing came up.
    The big question is, what did chkdsk fix and what did it do with an entire
    folder ?
    I am running Win XP Home Edition.
    External drive is a Ximeta, NetDisk NDAS.

    Thanks for your feed back,

    Paul

  2. #2
    DoctorGordanBens
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    Default Re: chkdsk/f


    "Paul" <Paul@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:F0A96975-A12F-4901-AD4A-8118A11D6D95@microsoft.com...
    >I store my important data on an external USB Hardrive. When I started the
    > drive up, I got an error message which advised me that one of my folders
    > was
    > corrupted, not just a file, but the entire folder. The message advised me
    > to
    > run chkdsk to recover the files, which I did. Then the message to dismount
    > the volume appeared and I answered Y to it. With the volume dismounted
    > message came the message that all open handles to this volume are now
    > invalid. CHKDSK then proceeded to fix the disk, deleting corrupted files
    > and
    > then recovering orphaned files. At the end of the run,chkdsk reset the
    > security id's for some of the files and verified that operation. Then it
    > inserted data attributes to those files and corrected errors in the master
    > file table. In other words chkdsk did a fine job, I even have a print out
    > of
    > what it did. After all was said and done and I re-booted my computer, the
    > previously corrupt folder, which was fixed by chkdsk, was gone. The entire
    > directory was gone. The only thing that was left was a ghost folder with
    > nothing in it. I did a search and nothing came up.
    > The big question is, what did chkdsk fix and what did it do with an entire
    > folder ?
    > I am running Win XP Home Edition.
    > External drive is a Ximeta, NetDisk NDAS.
    >
    > Thanks for your feed back,
    >
    > Paul


    Don't know what chkdsk did, but what's the problem. Just restore your
    important data from your backup.



  3. #3
    DoctorGordanBens
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    Default Re: chkdsk/f

    So are you suggesting that people should make backups of their backups? And
    then, make a copy of the copy of the backup?

    How many iterations of a backup in necessary for someone to be truly "backed
    up?'

    Alan

    "Maincat" <steve@nospam.org.uk> wrote in message
    news:OvdTkijjHHA.4624@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > Don't know what chkdsk did, but what's the problem. Just restore your
    > important data from your backup.
    >




  4. #4
    DoctorGordanBens
    Guest

    Default Re: chkdsk/f


    "Paul" <Paul@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:F0A96975-A12F-4901-AD4A-8118A11D6D95@microsoft.com...
    >I store my important data on an external USB Hardrive. When I
    >started the
    > drive up, I got an error message which advised me that one of
    > my folders was
    > corrupted, not just a file, but the entire folder. The message
    > advised me to
    > run chkdsk to recover the files, which I did. Then the message
    > to dismount
    > the volume appeared and I answered Y to it. With the volume
    > dismounted
    > message came the message that all open handles to this volume
    > are now
    > invalid. CHKDSK then proceeded to fix the disk, deleting
    > corrupted files and
    > then recovering orphaned files. At the end of the run,chkdsk
    > reset the
    > security id's for some of the files and verified that
    > operation. Then it
    > inserted data attributes to those files and corrected errors
    > in the master
    > file table. In other words chkdsk did a fine job, I even have
    > a print out of
    > what it did. After all was said and done and I re-booted my
    > computer, the
    > previously corrupt folder, which was fixed by chkdsk, was
    > gone. The entire
    > directory was gone. The only thing that was left was a ghost
    > folder with
    > nothing in it. I did a search and nothing came up.
    > The big question is, what did chkdsk fix and what did it do
    > with an entire
    > folder ?
    > I am running Win XP Home Edition.
    > External drive is a Ximeta, NetDisk NDAS.
    >
    > Thanks for your feed back,
    >
    > Paul


    -
    You wanted the corrupt file fixed...that is what it fixed. Carry
    on now and re-enter what you lost.
    -


  5. #5
    DoctorGordanBens
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    Default Re: chkdsk/f

    If that disk was just backups, make new ones.

    "Alan" <inthegalaxy@solarsystem.huh> wrote in message
    news:O0XSPUljHHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > So are you suggesting that people should make backups of their backups?
    > And then, make a copy of the copy of the backup?
    >
    > How many iterations of a backup in necessary for someone to be truly
    > "backed up?'
    >
    > Alan
    >
    > "Maincat" <steve@nospam.org.uk> wrote in message
    > news:OvdTkijjHHA.4624@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >> Don't know what chkdsk did, but what's the problem. Just restore your
    >> important data from your backup.




  6. #6
    DoctorGordanBens
    Guest

    Default Re: chkdsk/f

    Where did he say that the files were backups? He didn't. How do you know
    they are backups? You don't.


    "Alan" <inthegalaxy@solarsystem.huh> wrote in message
    news:O0XSPUljHHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > So are you suggesting that people should make backups of their backups?
    > And then, make a copy of the copy of the backup?
    >
    > How many iterations of a backup in necessary for someone to be truly
    > "backed up?'
    >
    > Alan
    >
    > "Maincat" <steve@nospam.org.uk> wrote in message
    > news:OvdTkijjHHA.4624@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >> Don't know what chkdsk did, but what's the problem. Just restore your
    >> important data from your backup.
    >>

    >
    >




  7. #7
    DoctorGordanBens
    Guest

    Default Re: chkdsk/f

    Paul said:
    I store my important data on an external USB Hardrive.

    Sounds like a "no backup" situation to me.

    Alan wrote:

    > So are you suggesting that people should make backups of their backups? And
    > then, make a copy of the copy of the backup?
    >
    > How many iterations of a backup in necessary for someone to be truly "backed
    > up?'
    >
    > Alan
    >
    > "Maincat" <steve@nospam.org.uk> wrote in message
    > news:OvdTkijjHHA.4624@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >
    >>Don't know what chkdsk did, but what's the problem. Just restore your
    >>important data from your backup.
    >>

    >
    >
    >



  8. #8
    DoctorGordanBens
    Guest

    Default Re: chkdsk/f

    Thanks Doug....
    I would love to re-nter what I had lost, but I don't know where it is.
    Did chkdsk create some sort of new file? I ran a search for the files I lost
    using their file extension syntax, but the files did not show up. Fortunately
    I have a scan log listing all the files, the list is 40 pages long and lists
    files like Word Documents which I now can't find. Re-entering right now
    means, re-typing hundreds of documents of which I have hard copies, in order
    to create another database. I am sure they are somewhere, but where. Oh, and
    they are not back up files, they are original files stored on an external
    harddrive. Virus scan does not show up anything and neither does spyware
    scan.

    Paul
    --
    Thank you, Paul


    "Doug" wrote:

    >
    > "Paul" <Paul@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:F0A96975-A12F-4901-AD4A-8118A11D6D95@microsoft.com...
    > >I store my important data on an external USB Hardrive. When I
    > >started the
    > > drive up, I got an error message which advised me that one of
    > > my folders was
    > > corrupted, not just a file, but the entire folder. The message
    > > advised me to
    > > run chkdsk to recover the files, which I did. Then the message
    > > to dismount
    > > the volume appeared and I answered Y to it. With the volume
    > > dismounted
    > > message came the message that all open handles to this volume
    > > are now
    > > invalid. CHKDSK then proceeded to fix the disk, deleting
    > > corrupted files and
    > > then recovering orphaned files. At the end of the run,chkdsk
    > > reset the
    > > security id's for some of the files and verified that
    > > operation. Then it
    > > inserted data attributes to those files and corrected errors
    > > in the master
    > > file table. In other words chkdsk did a fine job, I even have
    > > a print out of
    > > what it did. After all was said and done and I re-booted my
    > > computer, the
    > > previously corrupt folder, which was fixed by chkdsk, was
    > > gone. The entire
    > > directory was gone. The only thing that was left was a ghost
    > > folder with
    > > nothing in it. I did a search and nothing came up.
    > > The big question is, what did chkdsk fix and what did it do
    > > with an entire
    > > folder ?
    > > I am running Win XP Home Edition.
    > > External drive is a Ximeta, NetDisk NDAS.
    > >
    > > Thanks for your feed back,
    > >
    > > Paul

    >
    > -
    > You wanted the corrupt file fixed...that is what it fixed. Carry
    > on now and re-enter what you lost.
    > -
    >
    >


  9. #9
    DoctorGordanBens
    Guest

    Default Re: chkdsk/f

    "Paul" <Paul@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
    >I store my important data on an external USB Hardrive. When I started the
    > drive up, I got an error message which advised me that one of my folders
    > was
    > corrupted, not just a file, but the entire folder. The message advised me
    > to
    > run chkdsk to recover the files, which I did. Then the message to dismount
    > the volume appeared and I answered Y to it. With the volume dismounted
    > message came the message that all open handles to this volume are now
    > invalid. CHKDSK then proceeded to fix the disk, deleting corrupted files
    > and
    > then recovering orphaned files. At the end of the run,chkdsk reset the
    > security id's for some of the files and verified that operation. Then it
    > inserted data attributes to those files and corrected errors in the master
    > file table. In other words chkdsk did a fine job, I even have a print out
    > of
    > what it did. After all was said and done and I re-booted my computer, the
    > previously corrupt folder, which was fixed by chkdsk, was gone. The entire
    > directory was gone. The only thing that was left was a ghost folder with
    > nothing in it. I did a search and nothing came up.
    > The big question is, what did chkdsk fix and what did it do with an entire
    > folder ?
    > I am running Win XP Home Edition.
    > External drive is a Ximeta, NetDisk NDAS.



    You have experienced one of the problems with chkdsk. In certain
    circumstances it can result in data corruption or data loss that is not
    recoverable. It also doesn't give any indication of what it did except for
    the brief log you can view from event viewer in the application log. Look
    for entries of a type winlogon. It won't help you much, though.

    Never run chkdsk unless there is a full backup of the data. As a general
    rule one should have a backup of all important data at all times.

    --
    Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]


  10. #10
    DoctorGordanBens
    Guest

    Default Re: chkdsk/f

    Frank, Maincat and Bob I: All of you are correct about the OP using the
    external hard drive for his main data storage media. I shouldn't have
    assumed that the external hard drive was his backup.

    Alan

    "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:u30E5GnjHHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > Paul said:
    > I store my important data on an external USB Hardrive.
    >
    > Sounds like a "no backup" situation to me.
    >
    > Alan wrote:
    >
    >> So are you suggesting that people should make backups of their backups?
    >> And then, make a copy of the copy of the backup?
    >>
    >> How many iterations of a backup in necessary for someone to be truly
    >> "backed up?'
    >>
    >> Alan
    >>
    >> "Maincat" <steve@nospam.org.uk> wrote in message
    >> news:OvdTkijjHHA.4624@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>
    >>>Don't know what chkdsk did, but what's the problem. Just restore your
    >>>important data from your backup.
    >>>

    >>
    >>
    >>

    >




  11. #11
    DoctorGordanBens
    Guest

    Default Re: chkdsk/f

    Paul wrote:
    > Thanks Doug....
    > I would love to re-nter what I had lost, but I don't know where it is.
    > Did chkdsk create some sort of new file? I ran a search for the files
    > I lost using their file extension syntax, but the files did not show
    > up. Fortunately I have a scan log listing all the files, the list is
    > 40 pages long and lists files like Word Documents which I now can't
    > find. Re-entering right now means, re-typing hundreds of documents of
    > which I have hard copies, in order to create another database. I am
    > sure they are somewhere, but where. Oh, and they are not back up
    > files, they are original files stored on an external harddrive. Virus
    > scan does not show up anything and neither does spyware scan.
    >
    > Paul
    >
    >>
    >> "Paul" <Paul@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> news:F0A96975-A12F-4901-AD4A-8118A11D6D95@microsoft.com...
    >>> I store my important data on an external USB Hardrive. When I
    >>> started the
    >>> drive up, I got an error message which advised me that one of
    >>> my folders was
    >>> corrupted, not just a file, but the entire folder. The message
    >>> advised me to
    >>> run chkdsk to recover the files, which I did. Then the message
    >>> to dismount
    >>> the volume appeared and I answered Y to it. With the volume
    >>> dismounted
    >>> message came the message that all open handles to this volume
    >>> are now
    >>> invalid. CHKDSK then proceeded to fix the disk, deleting
    >>> corrupted files and
    >>> then recovering orphaned files. At the end of the run,chkdsk
    >>> reset the
    >>> security id's for some of the files and verified that
    >>> operation. Then it
    >>> inserted data attributes to those files and corrected errors
    >>> in the master
    >>> file table. In other words chkdsk did a fine job, I even have
    >>> a print out of
    >>> what it did. After all was said and done and I re-booted my
    >>> computer, the
    >>> previously corrupt folder, which was fixed by chkdsk, was
    >>> gone. The entire
    >>> directory was gone. The only thing that was left was a ghost
    >>> folder with
    >>> nothing in it. I did a search and nothing came up.
    >>> The big question is, what did chkdsk fix and what did it do
    >>> with an entire
    >>> folder ?
    >>> I am running Win XP Home Edition.
    >>> External drive is a Ximeta, NetDisk NDAS.
    >>>
    >>> Thanks for your feed back,
    >>>
    >>> Paul

    >>
    >> -
    >> You wanted the corrupt file fixed...that is what it fixed. Carry
    >> on now and re-enter what you lost.
    >> -


    Make it a priority to learn to backup properly. It sounds like you said you
    have the original data on a disk, so ... you do have a restarting point at
    least. All is not completely lost. But just think how much easier this
    would be had you created backups of your data.



  12. #12
    DoctorGordanBens
    Guest

    Default Re: chkdsk/f

    Sorry Paul...I misinterpreted your predicament. I keep my
    original documents and spreadsheet files on my harddrive and
    BACKUP on USB drives. Be careful with the USB drives...they are
    reasonably reliable BUT things can go wrong. Also some utility
    pgms designed for the hardrive may or may not do what they are
    supposed to do on removable drives.

    On really important stuff it doesn't hurt to have more than one
    back-up.

    I use Karen Kenworthy's "Replicator" for back-ups and it works
    like a charm...have never had a screw-up yet (fingers crossed),
    and it is FAST.

    Doug W.
    -

    "Paul" <Paul@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:1E978F30-7999-4F4A-A1F7-1F3231D87746@microsoft.com...
    > Thanks Doug....
    > I would love to re-nter what I had lost, but I don't know
    > where it is.
    > Did chkdsk create some sort of new file? I ran a search for
    > the files I lost
    > using their file extension syntax, but the files did not show
    > up. Fortunately
    > I have a scan log listing all the files, the list is 40 pages
    > long and lists
    > files like Word Documents which I now can't find. Re-entering
    > right now
    > means, re-typing hundreds of documents of which I have hard
    > copies, in order
    > to create another database. I am sure they are somewhere, but
    > where. Oh, and
    > they are not back up files, they are original files stored on
    > an external
    > harddrive. Virus scan does not show up anything and neither
    > does spyware
    > scan.
    >
    > Paul
    > --
    > Thank you, Paul
    >
    >
    > "Doug" wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> "Paul" <Paul@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> news:F0A96975-A12F-4901-AD4A-8118A11D6D95@microsoft.com...
    >> >I store my important data on an external USB Hardrive. When
    >> >I
    >> >started the
    >> > drive up, I got an error message which advised me that one
    >> > of
    >> > my folders was
    >> > corrupted, not just a file, but the entire folder. The
    >> > message
    >> > advised me to
    >> > run chkdsk to recover the files, which I did. Then the
    >> > message
    >> > to dismount
    >> > the volume appeared and I answered Y to it. With the volume
    >> > dismounted
    >> > message came the message that all open handles to this
    >> > volume
    >> > are now
    >> > invalid. CHKDSK then proceeded to fix the disk, deleting
    >> > corrupted files and
    >> > then recovering orphaned files. At the end of the
    >> > run,chkdsk
    >> > reset the
    >> > security id's for some of the files and verified that
    >> > operation. Then it
    >> > inserted data attributes to those files and corrected
    >> > errors
    >> > in the master
    >> > file table. In other words chkdsk did a fine job, I even
    >> > have
    >> > a print out of
    >> > what it did. After all was said and done and I re-booted my
    >> > computer, the
    >> > previously corrupt folder, which was fixed by chkdsk, was
    >> > gone. The entire
    >> > directory was gone. The only thing that was left was a
    >> > ghost
    >> > folder with
    >> > nothing in it. I did a search and nothing came up.
    >> > The big question is, what did chkdsk fix and what did it do
    >> > with an entire
    >> > folder ?
    >> > I am running Win XP Home Edition.
    >> > External drive is a Ximeta, NetDisk NDAS.
    >> >
    >> > Thanks for your feed back,
    >> >
    >> > Paul

    >>
    >> -
    >> You wanted the corrupt file fixed...that is what it fixed.
    >> Carry
    >> on now and re-enter what you lost.
    >> -
    >>
    >>



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